Reprints in vinyl 180 grams and similar.
It was a bit that I wanted to say some things about the subject of this post and, given that the record companies are making me angry, today is the right day. Yesterday I wanted to post my Spirit vinyl - 12 Dreams Of Dr. Sardonicus - (Epic) - 1970 but I gave up because it seems that even the record companies, the more they have money, the more careful are that don't drop a coin in the manhole .. ., since Pink Floyd (band that I love until 1979 but of which I avoid their every thing realized in the last 40 years), they made me take away The Dark Side Of The Moon (what a nuisance my poor vinyl rip can give to millionaires people ...) and Warner instead, finally, to provide a reprint, banned me - Sailor - Checkpoint - (Epic) - 1977 (only 750 views on the blog ...) and so I don't want any problems with my cloud.
I respect the artists and never post anything just produced, but here we are talking about records released over 40 years ago !!!
Good, indeed bad, and then I pass to the judgment on the products in object, premising that a giant of the music as Greg Lake asserted that the ideal were 140 grams, while Robert Fripp, another giant, reprints the King Crimson to 200 grams.
In my humble opinion the problem is not the weight but the material they use, in fact it is not understandable how vinyls that are even 50 years old played several times and weigh only a few tens of grams, sound better and do not ruin exponentially every time that you listen to it ... as happens with those of this millennium, with a progressive deterioration of the quality of production year after year.
When I rip my old vinyls I have to clean only small imperfections, while the new ones are a disaster with often defects that cannot be repaired without ruining everything or, even, not identifiable in the lineage.
Since I am convinced that the "POWERFUL" are kidding us about everything, I would like that if any of the friends who frequent the blog encountered my same problem, or doesn't find it (lucky him) he would give me his opinion.
You would do me a really welcome thing, even if of contrary opinion, I'm pissed off black ... but I'm not touchy.
Because of the aforementioned problems with the labels, I'm really undecided whether to post again or finish this weekend with Tommyknockers - Caught Dead Inside - 1990.
rawkin 'dog
I respect the artists and never post anything just produced, but here we are talking about records released over 40 years ago !!!
Good, indeed bad, and then I pass to the judgment on the products in object, premising that a giant of the music as Greg Lake asserted that the ideal were 140 grams, while Robert Fripp, another giant, reprints the King Crimson to 200 grams.
In my humble opinion the problem is not the weight but the material they use, in fact it is not understandable how vinyls that are even 50 years old played several times and weigh only a few tens of grams, sound better and do not ruin exponentially every time that you listen to it ... as happens with those of this millennium, with a progressive deterioration of the quality of production year after year.
When I rip my old vinyls I have to clean only small imperfections, while the new ones are a disaster with often defects that cannot be repaired without ruining everything or, even, not identifiable in the lineage.
Since I am convinced that the "POWERFUL" are kidding us about everything, I would like that if any of the friends who frequent the blog encountered my same problem, or doesn't find it (lucky him) he would give me his opinion.
You would do me a really welcome thing, even if of contrary opinion, I'm pissed off black ... but I'm not touchy.
Because of the aforementioned problems with the labels, I'm really undecided whether to post again or finish this weekend with Tommyknockers - Caught Dead Inside - 1990.
rawkin 'dog
I am largely in agreement! The King Crimson stuff at 200grams had all kinds of noise on many, but not all copies, as I found when I exchanged some of those titles and got better copies. The Yes 180g reissues from Atlantic, better. I do tend to think that at the point of 120 or 140 grams But my first American pressing
ResponderExcluirI do tend to think that the most benefit that can be gotten from vinyl weight tops out at 120 or 140grams. But can't make up for poor quality materials or a bad pressing; slapping some music on heavy vinyl is not a guarantee of good sound. My first American pressing of Are You Experienced is cleaner sounding and has more presence than any other record in my collection.
ResponderExcluirThank you DanP!
ExcluirThank you for all your work and posting these many great things! <3
Excluirremember Dynaflex from the mid 70ies, these very thin albums? i have a few by Lou Reed, Jefferson Airplane, they (still) sound better than most 4Menwithbeards releases. Really! and 180 gram or 140, it is such a hoax. And yes, vinyl these days is very bad material. Few years ago Blue Note celebrated their 75th birthday with a series of vinyl reissues. You should think that they wanted to give us their best vinyl but no. I bought a few and they had a lot of surface noise and crackles (Cecil Taylor's Unit Structures for one).
ResponderExcluirBest wishes from Holland! - and dont believe the hype!
My best wishes to you too Anônimo!
ResponderExcluirRawkin Dog hi Brother i'm pretty much in agreement with You and would further add that many pressing plants today seem to have lost the ability to produce clean vinyl with a low noise floor , some pressing plants are notorious for poor quality control , "Rainbow" for example which have pressed the US versions of Spoon reissues of Can's discography .. i bought a few not understanding that Rainbow were pressing the reissues , and they are all terrible , so disappointing one is tempted to not bother buying new records, Palace pressings from the CZ republic are not much better.... i tend to go for Japanese pressings which are almost always superb, I'm a big Jazz fan as well as Rock and everything else and the Japanese Pressings especially pre 1990 are often better sounding than originals in my opinion!.. Pink Floyds own remasters from 2015 of their classics i have to say are pretty good for Contemporary pressings ... but the Can albums a true abomination , they go to all that trouble with great remastering from analog tapes ,to then get the cheapest awful pressings from Rainbow.. on the other hand i have a few reissues pressed by "Quality records" https://(www).discogs.com/label/300589-Quality-Record-Pressings , and they are truly Superb they are generally 200 gr , but as You say thats not really the main issue.... best regards Marc from Orstralia
ResponderExcluirThanks Marc! Excellent analysis. Every time I buy a vinyl reissue I listen to it straight away so if it's ruined I'll bring it back and I have to say one in twenty has shameful flaws...
ExcluirPS it seems Quality Records mentioned in my previous comment are producing most of the Jimmy Hendrix re-issues by his families company (Experience Jimmy Hendrix)
ResponderExcluirI realize the shelf life has past, but my answer is a bit different, but hopefully on theme. I will choose whatever the weight of original pressings by The Rats or Dead Moons early output on Tombstone Records against any vinyl ever put out by the majors. Both bands and label guided by their creators, Mr & Ms Cole, AKA Toody and Freddy Cole (R.I.P.). Fred figured, if you want it done right, do it yourself. And no, yes, it was in Hype, but I had the benefit of time and space being able to see them many many times, even being in record stores as Freddy walked in with a box of freshly pressed vinyl for the happy owners. Another Contender, Greg Sage, the man who produced, recorded, and played all the instruments on the phenomenal debut album Testify. Yes, Testify by Pro Wrassler Beauregarde, hands down the best album by any pro wrestler. Greg also had a side gig or two, namely Wipers, and running Zeno, and defining if not creating guitar driven DIY Punk, Post Punk, Grunge, alienation, onandon, etc. Greg Sage, again the time space thing. --TRIGGER WARNING-- In grade school he had the equipment to press his own vinyl at home. His friends would give him a list of 4-5 popular songs of the day and a dollar. He had two radios tuned to the two local top forty stations, I'm with all of you who thought we were the best mix tape masters pulling from radio to cassette, apparently we kinda sucked, comparatively I guess. and I know that hurts, I feel it too, I just drop my head and try not to mumble..Anyway he would drop the station that was not playing the song and r3ecord it to, I have no idea of his equipment, but guarantee that it was tubed and tweaked, and soon enough he would hand the friend a freshly cut slice of vinyl. No, but I sure wish I did have one , and I bet it would sound better than any majors special red virgin vinyl made by virgins whatever. What weight vinyl, I will defer to Mr's Cole and Sage. D'Oh it just hit me, its quite possible the same equipment was used by both, my head is spinning, at 33.3 rpm's.DigIt! Trigger Reversal.. and the relief he must have experienced when the first note of by either was heard. That same look we had, if we would ever admit it...Picture Greg for hours by the radios listening to crap after crap just to get the drop on the next spin by Paper Lace or Bo(regaarde) picture him Donaldson & Haywoods or the other crap..I told you it would work..Now, DigIt! R.I.P. JimJim
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